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(Note: This page has been updated for the 2025 season.) |
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==Registering for March== |
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NHRL has grown significantly in the past year alone, and we’ve had to modify registration to give more people a chance to compete. We’re thrilled that so many people are excited to fight at our events, but we had to figure out a way to make the process more fair. |
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Like 2024, our registration will be a lottery system, with an option to apply for a reservation for builders who can only make a limited number of events. |
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We’ve solicited feedback from the builder community, and we’ve come up with the following plan. We’re very grateful and thankful for your feedback! |
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NHRL is growing, and we need to update our registration system to help make our events the best they can be. We know there were some pain points with registration in 2024, and we’ve spent a lot of time over the past few months reviewing data and trends, and consulting with members of the community across experience levels, team sizes, and weight classes, to try to improve the system for 2025. We have modified the registration system to address some of the key pain points and complaints we received, and will continue to modify it during the 2025 season. |
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'''We are adopting a new ballot-style registration system''', replacing the first-come-first-served system we’ve used in the past. We’re also setting up a way that people who need more certainty in their registration can have it. |
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We want to put on the best event we can possibly run. One of the key trends/points of feedback we received was regarding an increased number of dropouts and qualifying-round forfeits under the lottery system. The best event is one where as many builders as possible get to participate in all the fights they’re scheduled for. High rates of dropouts and forfeits mean fewer fights overall and fewer opportunities for competitors to get real match experience with their bots. Dropouts also significantly increase the workload on our team, and they reduce our ability to hype up bots and builders leading up to the event. Qualifying-round forfeits are unfair to builders on the waitlist who could have made it, but weren’t selected. |
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We will be monitoring the process closely to see where we can make improvements either for the remainder of this year or for next year. We may make changes (hopefully small tweaks) to this process throughout the year to make sure it’s the fairest possible registration process for everyone. |
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As a result, we are increasing penalties for dropping out for an event to try to deter people from registering without finished bots or travel arrangements. |
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There will be two ways to register for each event: open registration and event reservation. |
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'''Please only register if you are 100% sure you can compete at the event.''' |
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===Open Registration=== |
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Open registration will be the most common way to register for an event. It will not guarantee that you will fight at that event, though! When registration closes, we will select bots randomly, weighting for bots that have not had a chance to fight with us yet. |
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There are two ways to register: |
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If you do not get selected for a spot, you will be placed on the waitlist in a random order. |
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* Entering the selection lottery. This is for most competitors. Some competitors will be randomly selected to compete, while others will be waitlisted, and fill in whenever there's a dropout. |
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* Applying for a reservation to bypass the lottery. This is for long-distance competitors, or competitors who can only make one or two events. |
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[[2025_Registration_calendar|Here are some important dates for registration.]] |
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This way, it no longer matters if you sign up immediately when registration opens, just before it closes, or any time in between. You will have the same chances to make it in any way. |
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==Selection lottery== |
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We will announce the list of bots in the March tournament no later than Wednesday, January 17. This gives long-distance builders over six weeks to make travel arrangements. |
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The selection lottery is the most common way to register for an event. It typically opens about 8 weeks before an event, and stays open for one week. Lottery entry typically opens on a Monday and close on the following Sunday. We will, on occasion, open the lottery closer to or further out from an event due to extenuating circumstances, so please ensure you have email and Discord notifications set up if you’re hoping to register for a specific event. |
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When the lottery entry closes, we will select Main Drivers randomly, weighting for drivers that have not had a chance to fight with us this season. |
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There will still be a $25 deposit. This deposit will not be refunded immediately if you are not selected; instead, you will be put on the waitlist. Your deposit will be refunded if you withdraw up to 2 weeks before the event (like in previous events). If you never get selected from the waitlist, you will get your deposit refunded after the event. |
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If you do not get selected for a spot, you will be placed on the waitlist. |
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The main reason for these changes is to keep the system fair for everyone. As a result, we will not allow a builder to compete whom we believe is acting in bad faith (for example, renaming a bot to go around the process). |
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This way, it doesn't matter if you sign up immediately when the lottery entry opens, just before it closes, or any time in between. You will have the same chances to be selected for the event. |
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====Waitlisted bots==== |
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The waitlist is there to make sure that as many people get a chance to fight as possible, and to ensure that we can run a full field of bots fairly. |
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We announce the drivers that were selected about 6 and a half weeks before the event. This gives long-distance builders over six weeks to make travel arrangements. |
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If you’re on the waitlist, we would like you to be ready when you are called. If you don’t think you will be ready, then we ask that you withdraw from the waitlist to make sure other people have a chance to fill slots. |
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Our deposit is now $75 per Main Driver per weight class. This deposit will not be refunded immediately if you are not selected; instead, you will be put on the waitlist. |
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If we call you from the waitlist within two weeks of the event and you are not able to fill the spot, you will not get your deposit back. |
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You will get your deposit back if: |
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====Spot allocation==== |
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* You are selected for the event, pass bot inspection before your first fight, and compete in your first fight without a forfeit. |
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When registration closes, bots in each weight class will be separated into the following groups: |
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* You are on the waitlist and drop out before you are called to come off the waitlist. |
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* You are still on the waitlist on the day of the event. |
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* (Rare) You are selected, but drop out for reasons outside your control. |
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** Sickness, weather, or family emergencies count for this. Repeated illness or emergencies affecting your entry may impact future chances. |
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** Not having parts delivered in time, or blowing up a motor during testing, do not count for this. If you have a hard-to-replace part, like a custom hubmotor, please have a plan for what to do if that part breaks just before the event. |
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You will not get your deposit back if: |
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# '''2024 Debut''' - 50% of slots would be reserved for bots that have not fought at an NHRL event in 2024. (We would use the definition of “new bot” to ensure this, but applying it to bots that have not fought in 2024.) |
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* You are selected for the event, but drop out. |
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# '''Missed Last Event''' - 20% of slots would be reserved for bots that did not fight at the most recent NHRL event, and have not already fought at 3 NHRL tournaments. |
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* You are selected for the event, but forfeit your first fight. |
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# '''Under 3 NHRL tournaments''' - 20% of slots would be reserved for bots that have not already fought at 3 NHRL tournaments in 2024. |
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* You are called off the waitilst, but cannot make the event. |
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# '''Open''' - The remaining 10% of slots would be for all remaining bots. |
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==Selection== |
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We will evaluate and possibly tweak these percentages throughout the year. |
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Our registration caps will be: |
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* For 3lb: 96 bots (unchanged from 2024) |
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You will find out if your bot has a slot at the event or is on the waitlist after registration has closed. |
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* For 12lb: 32 bots (8 more than 2024) |
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* For 30lb: 16 bots (unchanged from 2024) |
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In the unlikely event that we get 24 or fewer entries in 12lb, we may choose to increase the the 30lb field by 8 bots. If we get 8 or fewer entries in 30lb, we may choose to increase the 12lb field by 8 bots. |
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To assign bots to slots, we will start with the 2024 Debut group. All bots in this group will be drawn in a random order until either all bots are assigned a slot OR there are no more slots left. |
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When the lottery closes, Main Drivers in each weight class will be separated into the following buckets: |
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If there are additional slots, these are added to the next group’s allocation. If there are additional bots, these are added to the next group’s list of bots. |
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* Bucket 0: Approved reservations. These are all drivers whose reservations have been approved. This will generally be about 25% of the bots selected, but that percentage may change depending on the number of reservations we get. |
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We will repeat this process for all four groups in the order set out above. |
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* Bucket 1: Debuts. These will be 15% of the field. It will be held for Main Drivers who have not competed at NHRL in the past 12 months in the weight class being selected. A Main Driver whose selection chances have been reduced (see below) will not be selected here. |
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* Bucket 2: Not participated in last 2 events in the weight class being selected. This will be 40% of the field. This will be for Main Drivers who did not compete, either through being selected or called from the waitlist, in the last 2 NHRL Open events (not including World Championships). A Main Driver whose selection chances have been reduced (see below) will not be selected here. |
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* Bucket 3: All other drivers. This will be about 20% of the field, but will vary depending on the number of drivers in Bucket 0, and if any bucket runs out of drivers. This will be all Main Drivers not selected in any of the above buckets. |
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During selection, if a Main Driver in a bucket is not selected, they will drop to the next bucket and still be eligible to be selected. If we run out of Main Drivers to select from a given bucket, we will go to the next bucket, with the extra picks going into Bucket 3. |
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Any unassigned bots will move to the waitlist in a random order. This order will be published. As bots drop out, bots of the appropriate weight class will replace them from the waitlist. |
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Selected and waitlisted drivers will be announced on the Wednesday after the lottery entry closes. |
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We will have 96 slots for 3lb bots, 24 slots for 12lb bots, and 16 slots for 30lb bots. We may swap the number of slots for 12lb and 30lb bots if we get more 30lb signups than 12lb. |
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We may update the order, criteria, or distribution of these slots throughout the year. |
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Each group will have a set number of slots allocated to it for the event. Starting with the first group, if there are fewer bots registered than slots available for that group, all bots will be added to the event and the remaining slots will be added to the allocation for the next group. |
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If we see a driver, captain, or team member is trying to get around the selection process by bad-faith means, that person may be subject to disciplinary action, up to and including being banned from events as a main driver or team member. |
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If there are more bots in the group than available slots allocated to that group, bots from that group will be drawn randomly until all slots are filled. The remaining bots will automatically be added to the next group. This process continues until the final group where all remaining slots are filled and then the waitlist is created by randomly drawing all remaining bots. |
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==Waitlist== |
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If a bot has participated in at least 3 tournaments during the season, it will only be selected if there are available slots after all registered bots have been selected. |
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All unselected Main Drivers will be placed into the waitlist in a random order. |
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Main Drivers may withdraw from the waitlist at any time without penalty and get their refund deposited, so long as they have not been called from the waitlist. Note that it’s common for several drivers to be called from the waitlist at once, so please don’t wait until you’re at top of the waitlist to withdraw! |
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We will use the [[January 20, 2024#What_is_a_new_bot.3F|January “new bots” rule]] to determine what is a new bot and what is a returning bot. |
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==Reduced selection chances== |
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If we determine that a builder is trying to circumvent these rules by re-entering an already-entered bot under a different name, or some other means, that builder will be subject to disciplinary action, up to and including event bans. |
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Certain actions may cause a driver to have their selection chances reduced. These actions are: |
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===Event Reservation=== |
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We are also offering event reservation to competitors for whom travel and logistics limit the possible dates they can attend (long distance flights, visa letters, etc.). If you can potentially attend most events on the schedule and travel doesn’t require extensive planning on your end, we ask that you use the open registration system instead. |
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* The Main Driver has withdrawn from 2 Open events between the event's minor dropout deadline (usually 3 weeks before the event) and the event's major dropout deadline (1 week before the event). |
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If there is one specific event that is best for you to fight at, you may contact us to apply for a spot for it before open registration ends. There may be situations where we cannot honor your request (e.g. other reservations met the cap for that weight class), but in most cases, we should be able to reserve a spot for you. |
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* The Main Driver has withdrawn from an event after that event's major dropout deadline. |
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* In one event, the Main Driver has forfeited both their first-round and second-round qualifier fights. |
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* (3lb only) In two consecutive events, the Main Driver forfeited their first-round and/or second-round qualifier fight. |
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** In the above two cases, we reserve the right to take action retrospectively if we deem it that a competitor has not forfeited, but has clearly tried to take other means to avoid fighting. |
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* The Main Driver has accumulated a certain threshold of demerit points (TBD), or has engaged in disciplinary or unsportsmanlike behavior at an NHRL event, or in one of our public online spaces (like the NHRL Discord or our YouTube chat). |
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These reduced selection chances will apply per Main Driver per weight class, and will last for 2 Open events. |
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Any individual bot may only be included in one reservation for the entire year. We will use the definition of "new bot" to judge this. Any competitor who tries to get around this by renaming a bot, or some other means, will face disciplinary action. |
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A Main Driver who does not show up at an event and does not tell us beforehand will be banned from competing at NHRL Open events in all weight classes for 6 months. |
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We recommend long-distance and overseas competitors use this method to guarantee themselves a presence at an event. |
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A Main Driver banned from our Discord for rules violations will be banned from our events for the length of their Discord ban. |
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[https://form.typeform.com/to/EAYmOVWF Go here to apply for an event reservation.] |
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If a builder does not think they can bring enough spares to make it past their first fight, then we recommend they cut their teeth elsewhere before registering to compete at an NHRL Open. |
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==Event Reservation== |
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As in 2024, we are offering event reservation to competitors for whom travel and logistics limit the possible dates they can attend (long distance flights, visa letters, etc.). If you can potentially attend most events on the schedule and travel doesn’t require extensive planning on your end, we ask that you use the open lottery system instead. |
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Any Main Driver may only be included in one reservation per weight class for the entire year. |
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If your reservation is approved, you will receive a code to enter into the open lottery form, which will let you bypass the lottery. Your reservation is not complete until you fill out the lottery form. |
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You will still need to pay the $75 deposit for each approved reservation. Like any other selected competitor, you will get the deposit back if you pass bot inspection and compete in your first-round qualifier fight. |
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If your reservation is approved and you drop out before the event, you will lose your reservation for the rest of the season, unless you dropped out for especially extenuating circumstances. |
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All other penalties for dropping out and forfeiting apply. |
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There may be situations where we cannot honor your request (e.g. other reservations met the cap for that weight class), but in most cases, we should be able to reserve a spot for you. |
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Note that we may close reservations several weeks or months before the event if we have a lot of reservations. |
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[https://form.typeform.com/to/ItEOzTR6 Go here to apply for an event reservation.] |
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==More detail about these changes== |
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We know this is a big change from how we operated in the past, but as NHRL grows and the competitiveness of not only participating in, but getting into each event increases, we are having to learn as we go on nailing the right balance to ensure we can be open to as many builders as possible. |
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In addition to our already scheduled Open events, we are planning to run some events aimed toward newer builders. These will be perfect for newer builders and returning builders looking to test out a new design or design change in a lower-risk environment. We will make additional announcements about these events soon. |
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Second, NHRL is rolling out initiatives that will support robot fighting programs in local communities around the country. Especially if you’re looking to fight with a 3lb bot for the first time, we suggest checking out your local leagues. Many of them run 3lb events, and they’re a great place to make sure your bot is event-ready before you sign up for an NHRL Open. https://www.robotcombatevents.com and https://buildersdb.com are great resources for this. |
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Third, if you’re close to Norwalk, you can email hello@nhrl.io and arrange a date when you can come by during business hours and test your bot out in one of our cages. Please do not show up without getting approval from us first, as our cages and workshop are not always available every day. |
Latest revision as of 21:11, 29 December 2024
(Note: This page has been updated for the 2025 season.)
Like 2024, our registration will be a lottery system, with an option to apply for a reservation for builders who can only make a limited number of events.
NHRL is growing, and we need to update our registration system to help make our events the best they can be. We know there were some pain points with registration in 2024, and we’ve spent a lot of time over the past few months reviewing data and trends, and consulting with members of the community across experience levels, team sizes, and weight classes, to try to improve the system for 2025. We have modified the registration system to address some of the key pain points and complaints we received, and will continue to modify it during the 2025 season.
We want to put on the best event we can possibly run. One of the key trends/points of feedback we received was regarding an increased number of dropouts and qualifying-round forfeits under the lottery system. The best event is one where as many builders as possible get to participate in all the fights they’re scheduled for. High rates of dropouts and forfeits mean fewer fights overall and fewer opportunities for competitors to get real match experience with their bots. Dropouts also significantly increase the workload on our team, and they reduce our ability to hype up bots and builders leading up to the event. Qualifying-round forfeits are unfair to builders on the waitlist who could have made it, but weren’t selected.
As a result, we are increasing penalties for dropping out for an event to try to deter people from registering without finished bots or travel arrangements.
Please only register if you are 100% sure you can compete at the event.
There are two ways to register:
- Entering the selection lottery. This is for most competitors. Some competitors will be randomly selected to compete, while others will be waitlisted, and fill in whenever there's a dropout.
- Applying for a reservation to bypass the lottery. This is for long-distance competitors, or competitors who can only make one or two events.
Here are some important dates for registration.
Selection lottery
The selection lottery is the most common way to register for an event. It typically opens about 8 weeks before an event, and stays open for one week. Lottery entry typically opens on a Monday and close on the following Sunday. We will, on occasion, open the lottery closer to or further out from an event due to extenuating circumstances, so please ensure you have email and Discord notifications set up if you’re hoping to register for a specific event.
When the lottery entry closes, we will select Main Drivers randomly, weighting for drivers that have not had a chance to fight with us this season.
If you do not get selected for a spot, you will be placed on the waitlist.
This way, it doesn't matter if you sign up immediately when the lottery entry opens, just before it closes, or any time in between. You will have the same chances to be selected for the event.
We announce the drivers that were selected about 6 and a half weeks before the event. This gives long-distance builders over six weeks to make travel arrangements.
Our deposit is now $75 per Main Driver per weight class. This deposit will not be refunded immediately if you are not selected; instead, you will be put on the waitlist.
You will get your deposit back if:
- You are selected for the event, pass bot inspection before your first fight, and compete in your first fight without a forfeit.
- You are on the waitlist and drop out before you are called to come off the waitlist.
- You are still on the waitlist on the day of the event.
- (Rare) You are selected, but drop out for reasons outside your control.
- Sickness, weather, or family emergencies count for this. Repeated illness or emergencies affecting your entry may impact future chances.
- Not having parts delivered in time, or blowing up a motor during testing, do not count for this. If you have a hard-to-replace part, like a custom hubmotor, please have a plan for what to do if that part breaks just before the event.
You will not get your deposit back if:
- You are selected for the event, but drop out.
- You are selected for the event, but forfeit your first fight.
- You are called off the waitilst, but cannot make the event.
Selection
Our registration caps will be:
- For 3lb: 96 bots (unchanged from 2024)
- For 12lb: 32 bots (8 more than 2024)
- For 30lb: 16 bots (unchanged from 2024)
In the unlikely event that we get 24 or fewer entries in 12lb, we may choose to increase the the 30lb field by 8 bots. If we get 8 or fewer entries in 30lb, we may choose to increase the 12lb field by 8 bots.
When the lottery closes, Main Drivers in each weight class will be separated into the following buckets:
- Bucket 0: Approved reservations. These are all drivers whose reservations have been approved. This will generally be about 25% of the bots selected, but that percentage may change depending on the number of reservations we get.
- Bucket 1: Debuts. These will be 15% of the field. It will be held for Main Drivers who have not competed at NHRL in the past 12 months in the weight class being selected. A Main Driver whose selection chances have been reduced (see below) will not be selected here.
- Bucket 2: Not participated in last 2 events in the weight class being selected. This will be 40% of the field. This will be for Main Drivers who did not compete, either through being selected or called from the waitlist, in the last 2 NHRL Open events (not including World Championships). A Main Driver whose selection chances have been reduced (see below) will not be selected here.
- Bucket 3: All other drivers. This will be about 20% of the field, but will vary depending on the number of drivers in Bucket 0, and if any bucket runs out of drivers. This will be all Main Drivers not selected in any of the above buckets.
During selection, if a Main Driver in a bucket is not selected, they will drop to the next bucket and still be eligible to be selected. If we run out of Main Drivers to select from a given bucket, we will go to the next bucket, with the extra picks going into Bucket 3.
Selected and waitlisted drivers will be announced on the Wednesday after the lottery entry closes.
We may update the order, criteria, or distribution of these slots throughout the year.
If we see a driver, captain, or team member is trying to get around the selection process by bad-faith means, that person may be subject to disciplinary action, up to and including being banned from events as a main driver or team member.
Waitlist
All unselected Main Drivers will be placed into the waitlist in a random order.
Main Drivers may withdraw from the waitlist at any time without penalty and get their refund deposited, so long as they have not been called from the waitlist. Note that it’s common for several drivers to be called from the waitlist at once, so please don’t wait until you’re at top of the waitlist to withdraw!
Reduced selection chances
Certain actions may cause a driver to have their selection chances reduced. These actions are:
- The Main Driver has withdrawn from 2 Open events between the event's minor dropout deadline (usually 3 weeks before the event) and the event's major dropout deadline (1 week before the event).
- The Main Driver has withdrawn from an event after that event's major dropout deadline.
- In one event, the Main Driver has forfeited both their first-round and second-round qualifier fights.
- (3lb only) In two consecutive events, the Main Driver forfeited their first-round and/or second-round qualifier fight.
- In the above two cases, we reserve the right to take action retrospectively if we deem it that a competitor has not forfeited, but has clearly tried to take other means to avoid fighting.
- The Main Driver has accumulated a certain threshold of demerit points (TBD), or has engaged in disciplinary or unsportsmanlike behavior at an NHRL event, or in one of our public online spaces (like the NHRL Discord or our YouTube chat).
These reduced selection chances will apply per Main Driver per weight class, and will last for 2 Open events.
A Main Driver who does not show up at an event and does not tell us beforehand will be banned from competing at NHRL Open events in all weight classes for 6 months.
A Main Driver banned from our Discord for rules violations will be banned from our events for the length of their Discord ban.
If a builder does not think they can bring enough spares to make it past their first fight, then we recommend they cut their teeth elsewhere before registering to compete at an NHRL Open.
Event Reservation
As in 2024, we are offering event reservation to competitors for whom travel and logistics limit the possible dates they can attend (long distance flights, visa letters, etc.). If you can potentially attend most events on the schedule and travel doesn’t require extensive planning on your end, we ask that you use the open lottery system instead.
Any Main Driver may only be included in one reservation per weight class for the entire year.
If your reservation is approved, you will receive a code to enter into the open lottery form, which will let you bypass the lottery. Your reservation is not complete until you fill out the lottery form.
You will still need to pay the $75 deposit for each approved reservation. Like any other selected competitor, you will get the deposit back if you pass bot inspection and compete in your first-round qualifier fight.
If your reservation is approved and you drop out before the event, you will lose your reservation for the rest of the season, unless you dropped out for especially extenuating circumstances.
All other penalties for dropping out and forfeiting apply.
There may be situations where we cannot honor your request (e.g. other reservations met the cap for that weight class), but in most cases, we should be able to reserve a spot for you.
Note that we may close reservations several weeks or months before the event if we have a lot of reservations.
Go here to apply for an event reservation.
More detail about these changes
We know this is a big change from how we operated in the past, but as NHRL grows and the competitiveness of not only participating in, but getting into each event increases, we are having to learn as we go on nailing the right balance to ensure we can be open to as many builders as possible.
In addition to our already scheduled Open events, we are planning to run some events aimed toward newer builders. These will be perfect for newer builders and returning builders looking to test out a new design or design change in a lower-risk environment. We will make additional announcements about these events soon.
Second, NHRL is rolling out initiatives that will support robot fighting programs in local communities around the country. Especially if you’re looking to fight with a 3lb bot for the first time, we suggest checking out your local leagues. Many of them run 3lb events, and they’re a great place to make sure your bot is event-ready before you sign up for an NHRL Open. https://www.robotcombatevents.com and https://buildersdb.com are great resources for this.
Third, if you’re close to Norwalk, you can email hello@nhrl.io and arrange a date when you can come by during business hours and test your bot out in one of our cages. Please do not show up without getting approval from us first, as our cages and workshop are not always available every day.